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the house has already acted on a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. democrats have no intention of taking up that house bill, which would extend all of the tax cuts into 2013. the approximated says he's not going to do that. plus a senate democrat leader told me there is a possibility of extending tax cuts for those under $250 thoid, but turning off the automatic across the board budget cuts. that will be a temporary measure. and finally, president obama has returned from his vacation in hawaii to try to kick start those talks. but the white house officials tell me there are no signs of progress yet. they have to hope that when members come back to washington on the 27th, that is thursday wblg that both the president, democrats in the senate, republicans in the senate and then both parties in the house can come together on at least a short-term deal. back to you. >> a short-term deal. joining us now is tim stanley, a u.s. historian at oxford university. welcome. >> good morning. >> we've been following this together for the last several months. how do
the house has already acted on a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. democrats have no intention of taking up that house bill, which would extend all of the tax cuts into 2013. the approximated says he's not going to do that. plus a senate democrat leader told me there is a possibility of extending tax cuts for those under $250 thoid, but turning off the automatic across the board budget cuts. that will be a temporary measure. and finally, president obama has returned from his vacation in hawaii to...
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five days to go until the fiscal cliff and the heat is turning up on both sides of the aisle. house speaker john boehner says the senate needs to act first. meantime, just about 40 minutes ago, tim geithner said the u.s. is simply running out of money. let's get the latest on this game of chicken from c nbc's chief political correspondent, john harwood. john? >> melissa, i want to bring you up to date on the fiscal cliff developments. first of all, as you mentioned, secretary geithner has informed the senate that the united states government will hit its debt ceiling on monday. that is december 31st. now, that doesn't mean that anything happens immediately, because the treasury can take various steps to postpone the moment of reckoning, probably a couple of months. it's still significant. that's an effort to pressure congress. secondly, the house republicans have met, leadership has met, sent a letter to democrats saying the house has acted, now it's up to the senate to act. that's, of course, the m theic-controlled senate which has no intention of taking up that house bill, w
five days to go until the fiscal cliff and the heat is turning up on both sides of the aisle. house speaker john boehner says the senate needs to act first. meantime, just about 40 minutes ago, tim geithner said the u.s. is simply running out of money. let's get the latest on this game of chicken from c nbc's chief political correspondent, john harwood. john? >> melissa, i want to bring you up to date on the fiscal cliff developments. first of all, as you mentioned, secretary geithner has...
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>> we ought to go over the fiscal cliff. i think we shouldn't make a deal where we're not -- we shouldn't raise taxes. we need entitlement reform, then we can talk. if there's no real entitlement reform, there's nothing we can do. democrats spend, spend, spend. now they have the bill, the fiscal cliff and they don't like the result. what are they going to do? it's time you actually put a stop -- >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> a case of extreme helicopter parents sued by their daughter for stalking but is what they did really that bad? you're legal eagles are on the case coming up. ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. >>> a parents' love is unconditional and sending kids to college is hard. when you plant monitoring soft
>> we ought to go over the fiscal cliff. i think we shouldn't make a deal where we're not -- we shouldn't raise taxes. we need entitlement reform, then we can talk. if there's no real entitlement reform, there's nothing we can do. democrats spend, spend, spend. now they have the bill, the fiscal cliff and they don't like the result. what are they going to do? it's time you actually put a stop -- >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> thank you....
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staff be giving them the latest on the fiscal cliff". lloyd will be on the call according to a source, and still working on exactly what's transpyring inside the white house. that's lloyd blankfind there, again, not part of the call with the ceos, and conferring with the chief executives on what's going on with the fiscal cliff arrangements or, you know, negotiations because, obviously, critical getting closer and closer to the fiscal cliff, session lows now, the news does not portend good news with regard to the negotiations down 158 points and as you can tell, a rough day on wall street. stocks falling again, fifth day in a row, by the way, of session lows. 159 points down, red arrows, s&p and russell 2000. just sources from the meeting, but none appear to be positive, and as a result, the dow heading towards the closing bell. the holiday shopping season coming to a close, and the u.s., as we know now, on the edge of the fiscal cliff. what's that mean for retailers in 2013? we have a guest here. i love wisconsin, used to live in green
staff be giving them the latest on the fiscal cliff". lloyd will be on the call according to a source, and still working on exactly what's transpyring inside the white house. that's lloyd blankfind there, again, not part of the call with the ceos, and conferring with the chief executives on what's going on with the fiscal cliff arrangements or, you know, negotiations because, obviously, critical getting closer and closer to the fiscal cliff, session lows now, the news does not portend good...
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as they work on last-minute negotiations to try to avoid the fiscal cliff. our eamon javers also reported just moments ago that treasury secretary timothy geithner is at the meeting as well. we're going to monitor that situation for you, and, of course, bring you all the latest developments on that. in the meantime, oil is up for the week, but ending on a down note today. cnbc's bertha coombs is at the center of all the action at the nymex. >> reporter: we're seeing oil back fractionally positive at this hour with thoseeadl crossing, but overall it was a somewhat down day after we got a disappointing report from the eia inventories delayed because of the christmas holiday. it was a smaller than expected drawdown in crude stocks, and also notable. we saw a $2 million barrel build when it came to crude stocks at the nymex hub in oklahoma. now at a record 49 million barrels to end the year. ironically we do have wti nymex up for the week, and it's actually been up for the last three weeks. part of the reason, we're seeing a number of funds and traders moving ou
as they work on last-minute negotiations to try to avoid the fiscal cliff. our eamon javers also reported just moments ago that treasury secretary timothy geithner is at the meeting as well. we're going to monitor that situation for you, and, of course, bring you all the latest developments on that. in the meantime, oil is up for the week, but ending on a down note today. cnbc's bertha coombs is at the center of all the action at the nymex. >> reporter: we're seeing oil back fractionally...
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david: peter, will there be, i know the president and congress is all focused on the fiscal cliff, will there be any negotiations before the december 31 deadline on the debt ceiling number or will they table that and let treasury deal with it until they have to? >> the white house would like there to be one global deal that includes the debt ceiling but republicans are hearing nothing of that. the president proposed let's get rid of actually having firm vote on raising the debt ceiling, let's reduce a simpler system because of it rattles the market too much but republicans are saying they want to hold the debt ceiling in reserve in the negotiations because if you can't get a deal on taxes or prove some legislation december 31 raising tax increases, they want to use the debt ceiling to force negotiations on spending cuts going forward, david. david: tim geithner is on his own until the first of the year. >> yes. david: appreciate it. shibani: a look at the s&p futures including going back to the cme group. mark. >> looks like we gave away another $1.50 after close. i cannot imagine a goo
david: peter, will there be, i know the president and congress is all focused on the fiscal cliff, will there be any negotiations before the december 31 deadline on the debt ceiling number or will they table that and let treasury deal with it until they have to? >> the white house would like there to be one global deal that includes the debt ceiling but republicans are hearing nothing of that. the president proposed let's get rid of actually having firm vote on raising the debt ceiling,...
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economists say we could go into another recession if the fiscal cliff is not dealt with. we just learned house republicans convened a conference call with members to say be on 48 hours notice to come back to washington in the next few days to deal with this one way or another. the senate coming back into session tomorrow morning 10:00 a.m. eastern time. the president on this red eye will be flying basically overnight tonight into tomorrow, get there early in the day and maybe convene congressional leaders at some point. interesting that starbucks, the coffee company, is running a row motion in d.c. stores where the they're writing come together on the coffee cup. right now, they're a bit far apart. >> i heard you talk about that 78-degree cold front that swept through the islands. before he headed out, how did the president celebrate christmas? >> yeah, it's been rough. you're right. 78 degrees is probably better than where you are right now, but the bottom line is that hawaii is always beautiful this time and the president started a tradition when he comes out here for c
economists say we could go into another recession if the fiscal cliff is not dealt with. we just learned house republicans convened a conference call with members to say be on 48 hours notice to come back to washington in the next few days to deal with this one way or another. the senate coming back into session tomorrow morning 10:00 a.m. eastern time. the president on this red eye will be flying basically overnight tonight into tomorrow, get there early in the day and maybe convene...
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the house have already passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff. democrats have not. house republicans passed a bill a few months ago, in the manner they wanted extending the current tax rates. democrats a few months ago passed their preferred option letting taxes increase for families earning more than $250,000 a year so both sides are now on their opening position. even if lawmakers, congressional leaders work out a deal at the top level will take days probably for anything to get through the house and senate. tracy: just to be cleared john boehner said he would give him 48 hours notice will for they had to come back. if he calls them today they don't have to be back for 48 hours. >> right. they have a conference call, republican conference in 30 minutes to discuss their next move. they announced they are coming back, the earliest they would be back in session would be saturday but even if lawmakers are you there is no deal yet, the upper echelons of congressional leadership that would have them vote on anything so we are waiting for congressional leaders to work so
the house have already passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff. democrats have not. house republicans passed a bill a few months ago, in the manner they wanted extending the current tax rates. democrats a few months ago passed their preferred option letting taxes increase for families earning more than $250,000 a year so both sides are now on their opening position. even if lawmakers, congressional leaders work out a deal at the top level will take days probably for anything to get through...
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cliff. the president is cutting his vacation short to return to the white house and try to hammer out a deal. but what will actually happen if we do go over the cliff? doug luzader is live for us with the details. >> it is not going to be pretty. on board air force one heading back to washington from a hawaii after cutting christmas short. can a cup of coffee help as far as christmas is concerned. starbucks is hoping. if you go into a starbucks you will get a message written on your coffee that says come together. this is a company trying to tell the president and lawmakers here they need to come up with some kind of agreement before they go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. the senate will be meeting today. this is the first time we have seen legislative business conducted in the weeks between christmas and new years since 1970. the house come back as well but nothing yet. the other thing to consider here the two key players in all of this president obama and republican house sp
cliff. the president is cutting his vacation short to return to the white house and try to hammer out a deal. but what will actually happen if we do go over the cliff? doug luzader is live for us with the details. >> it is not going to be pretty. on board air force one heading back to washington from a hawaii after cutting christmas short. can a cup of coffee help as far as christmas is concerned. starbucks is hoping. if you go into a starbucks you will get a message written on your...
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on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so to speak? >> a good question. i have been in touch wit
on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series...
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he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while many republicans oppose new taxes for anyone, senator kay bailey hutchison says she's looking for compromise, alluding to house speaker john boehner's plan "b" that was met with stiff opposition from his own party. >> i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that, and i don't think we need that kind of shock to the system. however, i've talked to some of my democratic colleagues, and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because you know, i'm one
he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while many republicans oppose new taxes for anyone, senator...
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housing is good? >> fiscal cliff is bad. >> is that a net-net? >> i think the housing is good but the housing isn't great. everybody's talking about housing like it's going to carry us some place. it's just not going to drag. but it's not going to be a boost and i'm still very concerned about where the economy is going. >> is there any way that we've over -- sort of had too much anxiety and angst about the fiscal cliff or not? >> i don't think there's been much anxiety. and i talked to my brother and sister in suburban detroit. they're not in the financial world and they're always talking about the fiscal cliff. my wife has the same thing with her brothers and sisters, they're not in finance but it's what everybody's talking about. everybody's worried about it. but the experts tell us that we're not going to go over the cliff so they know it's there but they don't think we're going to go over it. so we'll see. >> i hope you're right. thank you for being here. >> coming up, is washington ready to go cliff diving? we're going to find out after the
housing is good? >> fiscal cliff is bad. >> is that a net-net? >> i think the housing is good but the housing isn't great. everybody's talking about housing like it's going to carry us some place. it's just not going to drag. but it's not going to be a boost and i'm still very concerned about where the economy is going. >> is there any way that we've over -- sort of had too much anxiety and angst about the fiscal cliff or not? >> i don't think there's been much...
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shibani: fiscal cliff talks felt far and wide certainly in the pits of the cme. dennis: the year ending with positive news for the housing market but will washington pull the plug on its recovery? shibani: we will tell you what could be apple's latest products--and it wraps around your wrist. dennis: here's how the world's currencies are faring today. shibani: more positive news out of the housing sector, leading indicator of the housing market, pending home sales up in november for the record straight month now at a 2-1/2 year high, this data put out by the national association of realtors and i'm joined by chief economist lawrence unit. looking at the date of last couple months, housing prices are up, starts are up, and in home sales are up. is it fair to say that in 2012 warehousing market finally came alive? >> absolutely. furthermore things the going down our inventories, a number of foreclosures going down, based on the market. things that need to go up are going up and things that need to go down are going down and everything is moving in the right directi
shibani: fiscal cliff talks felt far and wide certainly in the pits of the cme. dennis: the year ending with positive news for the housing market but will washington pull the plug on its recovery? shibani: we will tell you what could be apple's latest products--and it wraps around your wrist. dennis: here's how the world's currencies are faring today. shibani: more positive news out of the housing sector, leading indicator of the housing market, pending home sales up in november for the record...
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he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes without saying, and that the democrats were not happy that maybe a week and a half ago the speaker pulled out of talks with the president after they had reached a pretty good amount of progress. but the fact that he called the speaker a dictator and in the next breath said he's worried about his job, it's a little contradictory, but very personal. let me give you a little bit of a reality check. that is it is true that the house is not in session. they will come in quickly at 2:00 in a pro formal way and house republican leaders have told members they will give them 48-hours notic
he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes...
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the fiscal cliff is falling into the hands of the senate after the house walks away with no deal. can the senate do any better? connecticut senator richard blumenthal is with us at the top of the hour plus the airline pilot caught on tape ripping his bosses as' poll jizs to passengers. you're going to want to hear this and probably applaud. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. satisfaction guaranteed meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to t
the fiscal cliff is falling into the hands of the senate after the house walks away with no deal. can the senate do any better? connecticut senator richard blumenthal is with us at the top of the hour plus the airline pilot caught on tape ripping his bosses as' poll jizs to passengers. you're going to want to hear this and probably applaud. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make...
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at 2:00 p.m., the house reopens. -- tonight or tomorrow, on monday -- that is our schedule, the fiscal cliff count down today. i want to turn out to nancy cook of the national journal. she is here to give us -- give us all the latest. her latest story -- and the cook, thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. we are at this late hour. all of these tax hikes and spending cuts are slated to take defect in the new year. congress and the white house had spent seven weeks of bickering over all these different elements of the this clip. as you know, there are many elements. many tax provisions, a lot of spending cuts, and at this point, any deal that is reached will not deal with a lot of these things. it is going to potentially make some tax cuts for below $250,000. it will potentially patch the alternative minimum tax. it will not deal with the payroll tax holiday. the most likely will not deal with the sequester. it may earn -- it may or not deal with tax breaks for businesses. for all these arguments and ongoing things about these tax and spending issues, in the end, we w
at 2:00 p.m., the house reopens. -- tonight or tomorrow, on monday -- that is our schedule, the fiscal cliff count down today. i want to turn out to nancy cook of the national journal. she is here to give us -- give us all the latest. her latest story -- and the cook, thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. we are at this late hour. all of these tax hikes and spending cuts are slated to take defect in the new year. congress and the white house had spent seven weeks of...
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what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their home districts later this hour. we expect senate republican leader mitch mcconnell to be on the senate floor. the top of the next hour, so we should get some insight from him as well. some of the aides have suggested that eerie read should talk less and legislate more. meanwhile, a house republicans suggested -- well, it's not so good. >> the house is actually extend these tax rates for everybody in the entire country, which is exactly the correct policy as we see it. we send it to the senate, the senate refuses to take it up. the senate can fix this today if they wanted to. >> the bottom line is that republicans are expecting that the white house and/or democrats on the hill will make a final offer of some sort at some point. but timing is not clear. not at this time. greg: mike emanuel li
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fiscal cliff. we're going to be talking about the starbucks effort a little later in the show. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 27th. i'm mike barnicle in for joe, mika and willie. joining the table, we have political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> applause for sam. "fortune's" assistant managing editor, leigh gallagher. and the president of the council on foreign relations, author of "foreign policy begins at home: the case for putting america's house in order." and in washington, vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com and msnbc political analyst, richard wolffe. a minor round of applause for richard wolffe. >> one hand clapping. >> first of all, can anybody here come up with a synonym -- i don't care what it is -- so we don't have to employ the phrase "fiscal cliff" at all during the day? any ideas? anybody got any -- >> how about deadline? >> how about do your job. how about
fiscal cliff. we're going to be talking about the starbucks effort a little later in the show. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 27th. i'm mike barnicle in for joe, mika and willie. joining the table, we have political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> applause for sam. "fortune's" assistant managing editor, leigh gallagher. and the president of the...